I think it would give the blog more integrity and transparency. 5. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . Cathleen was murdered in Feb. 1982 in her home in Brighton. Children imitate their parents every move. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. I had nonetheless heard of the legendary Diane Downs; the cruel sociopath who had sacrificed her own children to be free to pursue a relationship with the man she loved. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June 1983, 11 days after the shooting. Its tiresome. Or that the sketch did not resemble the suspect enough? And it is not like these two were white as snow. If Hugi got attached to the children, why did he wait 2 years when little Christie was starting to say she had no clue who shot them? I lived through the media coverage. According to Diane, she then saw a man on the road flagging her and stopped thinking he needed help. I was raised by an evil narcissist and have not only seen this kind of behavior before, but I have seen the face of the devil and it is a look of pure evil that gives me the creeps. It seems that a lot of what was written down never came up during testimony and some nurses even strayed from the original content. Its a dangerous proposition when a lack of due process becomes acceptable because they know she is guilty. Where is the blood spatter on Diane? The detective said to leave that up to the police. I saw footage of Diane herself laughing during the re-enactment of the crime. I think that looked at through a more objective lens, many aspects of the Downs case are highly questionable. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. I am quite bothered by what happened in that courtroom and in the media. On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? Ultimately, the blogger is entitled to their opinion as is everyone else. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. She was also shot twice andifshe had been sitting up, the seats would have been covered with blood spatter as well as the shooter. As was his habit, Knick failed to take into consideration what Diane or his wife had to say on the matter. Seeing her giggle and laugh during a videoed reconstruction gave me, as a mother, a sickening feeling. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture: relevance? After completing his education and their short-lived high school romance, Steve Downs would move on to join the navy. They were the small sacrifices. had to wait for Christie to be able to tell them who did it. Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. In 1992 I became involved in this work following my interest and research into a notorious murder trial that was held in Oregon many years ago. Except after the idea was subsequently planted in his head only to be alluded to in court, in spite of an agreement to never mention the subject. She was found guilty. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children. Everywhere, EXCEPT the door through which Diane reported to police, the male stranger had passed. Page 37 of Case History. The reason she is likely locked up is because she was diagnosed with narcissistic, histrionic and anti social personality disorder, that makes her a very dangerous person (especially since she is a murderer). There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. How interesting. That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. Do you remember a couple of days after that, December It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song Hungry like the Wolf that supposedly was playing when the children were shot in the car. 3. Without her daughters testimony and the lies about the gun, they could not have found her guilty in a fair trial. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. Flash-forward to the present day. Not even the gun. She goes on to say that she has deep regret and mourns the loss and death of her children. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. Gunpowder is one of the toughest stains around, when it comes to removing it from clothes. The lousy men in their lives never took a hit because after all, it was these witches fault. It would not benefit you, my children, or society for me to perpetuate that lie. My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. There is only one major problem with your scenario. From the time Diane was a teenager, when a physician ordered visterol in an emergency room situation, it has been documented again and again that sedatives ingested while Diane is in pain, provoke a chemically induced hysteria in her. In a fairly good knot which would have taken time to do one handed and teeth. Take your smugness elsewhere, at long last. Inside, outside, top to bottom. she flat out says, they are saying Duran Duran made her shoot her kids!..Im like HUHOkay now this is my favorite groupstill is at 44yrs old.I had to investigate this. For all you readers of this blogger, I lived through the Diane Downs case. She had not fired a gun. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. I am glad you read it anyway and I appreciate your comment. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. I know better now than to accept blindly the truth presented to us on a silver platter by the media and the judicial system. In 1991, David Brewer, a juror who deliberated Dianes fate in her 1984 trial, came forward to say he and another juror had decided to acquit Downs by the close of the States presentation. Surely before Diane downs, there were other mothers who killed their kids..or allegedly did, however in 83 and 84 it made national news, nothing quite like it had come across the media world, which during that decade was really skyrocketing in sensationalismI believe is where it started, becoming less news and more entertainment. Im sure nothing I write will change that. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. Their theory was very shaky. Im not arguing the facts of the trial, and Im not about to. The rest of the family? Strange how Jagger is pretty absent too except for the few photos where he is wrongly identified as Hugi. Very little is definitively known in this area. Diane was instructed to reenact her response to the attacker who murdered her daughter. I think u need to read the facts. Speculative. When your goal is to call me dude, insult my name and trash my blog, you can go on other sites who will love to spar with you while swallowing the old narrative of high profile cases. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. Lockdowns in . They were in a group home and he was getting unsupervised visitation with them. Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business: argumentative The circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children demand to be used as evidence.. My comment to you Lise is about your reply to a previous comment where you say Diane should have been released by now regardless of her statements. Just similar stuff.and that I guess, makes it easy for me to see how that song could of fueled her up.never underestimate the power if a song..what feels intense and exciting to you, may not to another, but shoot, anytime I hear pink floyd run like hell.takes me right back 1991 in the heat of my chase..for me, I got the answers I wanted from 89 when my friend said that about the Duran song and it involved in that case. As an adoptive parent I cant even imagine trying to justify to my daughter our adopting her if we had in any way been a part of the case to terminate her from her bio family. She has done her time in prison and I hope that she gets the chance to get out and spend time with her mother and siblings. She repeated it years later at school. If you are not bothered by lack of due process and a prosecutor making up psychiatric labels and adopting kids from a defendant or a judge who gets promoted from family court to criminal court to hang Diane, I am sure bothered by it. They went after Diane at trial for tapping her foot when they played Hungry like the wolf. A. I told Diane before, but I certainly didnt tell her to The weird behavior (laughing and joking in the shooting reenactment), bullets found at her home and the constant changing of her story only is icing on her guilty cake. They said she was going slow but the time at which she arrived seems to indicate otherwise. That poor girl. And to say that her mental health has degraded is an understatement, but more reason not to keep her eternally incarcerated. Seems like she was her worst enemy. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. Again thats opinion, and neither balanced nor objective. Even if they say that she did not get involved in rehabilitation programs, she did participate, but obviously did not admit to killing her daughter and injuring the others. The details about the gun missing, the daughters testimony and the fact that she had no blood or gun residues are facts. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. why didn't steve downs get custody. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common. But you are right to say that it is my site. But they tended to ignore other important aspects. Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. I have plans to go hunting with the husband of one of the alternates.. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? We dont know what the Hugi family was doing during this time, probably seeing the kids regularly and getting licensed and approved to take the kids home with them. When analysing this blog, look at three statements from the blogger: Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. A fact strongly denied by Diane and by the nurses reports. I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. During the process of the termination (which can take the whole 2 years in question, with appeals) the court is mandated to find family to take the children. It does not contradict what I said, but what they said. Removing the children from her and presiding over her criminal trial? Diane was just 18 years old but determined to get married. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. In reply to Kit I never read the Ann Rule book, but saw Small Sacrifices as a kid and have had an interest in this case ever since. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. Diane clearly would have had to have had her rights terminated by the court. A very reasonable request that was rejected. She'd also shot herself in the forearm. No. She had a bullet wound in the arm, and the three kids in the back of the blood-soaked car had all been shot at close range. This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. That hurt our family deeply. And these men in black perceived this as an act of war, and proceeded to go after them with every legal or illegal means at their disposal. http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC // The Prison State of America Dec 28, 2014 Chris Hedges, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228 What about the affidavits of the guy who confessed to several people? Bannon, a former adviser . A test for the presence of gunshot residue conducted on Dianes hands the night of the shooting, returned a negative result (Appendix 23). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. I point out some obvious facts and discrepancies, and that due process was shoved aside because the state and the media presented a guilty image right from the start. I dont believe there was a CK. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Evidence from a ballistics expert. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. At the time Diane had told police that a stranger attempted to carjack her and shot the kids, and that's what her ex husband was told, too. The answers to those questions do not matter anymore. The DA adopting the children is an integral part of this and definitely needs to be included in the blog. Q. Cheryl was shot twice in the back and one of the bullets ended up on the floorboard. Knick never signed the premarital agreement and Diane never married him. I am not her advocate, but I think she did not get due process. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. I would like to raise the numerous issues with this blog. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. They felt safe there. Your prayers were answered. This unhealthy marriage survived and became a daily struggle. They examined her clothes also. Wrong. By the way, this not a Diane Downs is innocent blog. It is a lets examine the facts of the case with hindsight and try to explain some of the inconsistencies and the role of the media and crime writers. And lets wonder why the US think that letting people die in prison is the answer when most civilized countries have reached other conclusions. 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