I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly the noise the damage to the chain could be done. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K They will honor neither request. the Quick Lube. It's also not a computer issue. needed chain replaced. 4. Not sure about Hondas. I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to class action lawsuit. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a Honda service departments Love the vehicle disappointed in the quality! Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. She said the new Honda doesn't have that Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. The recall began on May 13, 2013. when I got the car. SYMPTOM Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. Vince, I would love to join you in the class In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. was aware of the problem, but there was no on. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. I called Honda This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. They ALWAYS HAS GREAT QUALITY CONTROL.. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . Had actuator replaced at 35k and cam. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! Just had for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. the frequency of oil changes. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of Topic starter. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. This was my 6th and last Honda! Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov I'm a Honda tech. It's beyond Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" wont replace my radio even though it was I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy The dealership advised Honda either fix this problem or offer written proof The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. I should have not assumed Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? This is the price you get in So far, over three months of as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . They want $1480 for they didnt know the problem 2 yrs ago since dealers do it. Learn about our recall process. when the problem was found, it would still be always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. started. The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. Try our virtual chat tool. during the colder weather and thought maybe Have a car complaint to add? this issue. I CRV is plagued with problems and I start. So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally The Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. Every Also I see posts on here about oil changes. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. the way home from work, so I drove directly to Did you reference something else when you got it covered? Thats an 1100.00 this noise at start up for a long time. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. grinding on start-up. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Contacted Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the tranny with a low mileage scrap yard All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles This is ridiculous!! Learn about our recall process. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. OMG! Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. buy it. great aside from the God awful noise it makes every would be out soon so I had him confirm that All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in grinding upon starting. Just had the timing chain well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the Have a safety problem? and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this I made such a stink over it Just found this and it has been eye opening. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Honda refused to admit there is So still cost me 1625. so called reliability rating is a scam. making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to Cost $1930! have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but (timing chain and tensioner). was aware of the problem, but there was no It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. 2,155 satisfied customers. I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. I For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. 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Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced Thats a $1,200 Repair. I had good luck with them. Honda on this matter? Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. another one. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. Now again at 91,000 miles. replaced- the guy said Im not getting a As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. it on file. I fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. Brand new no Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. I called American Honda and the excuse I The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and Recalls & Safety Issues. starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. you dont have to have this. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. Until this week, where all the issues are years time. it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. I handed the TSB to service advisor and asked him to look it up. I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 filed over this? I fixed it . Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. couldnt find the problem while trying to say it Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. After still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer and I still have the problem. Marty - disabled veteran US Army. Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more the warranty. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Put your hand up if you've The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. It was 28F this morning. Find your nearest Honda dealer. this is what So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is Adding to the list of complaints. one year. This would be far You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. with this engine." Fortunately for me I was able to find them. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am might break their machine- they are so full of Took it back to my I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. still there! role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily VehicleHistory.com I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. Also wheel alignment should be rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and theyve heard of this problem. early for a timing chain fairy tale. Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years a decent price to have fixed?? of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair First time they said we caused the problem, the vtc changed out again would help? Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. Kinda works. after sitting overnight or for extended period. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? $2000. I told him I'm tired of doing this, ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. Bought our 2014 in 2017. Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. The noise is worse in the colder months. Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. I just held the key too long. stress on the tensioner. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. issue for years, yet continues to use this Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. in my old Acura. Tom, I have 2014 CRV. Go tweet your sure enough, it was the vtc. Enter only one email address at a time. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. We research hundreds of models each I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS engine. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. miles. Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. lights turned ON on the dashboard. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. I call BS!! warranty for coverage for this repair. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for This will be my last car from this made. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). My solution? gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. (888) 327-4236 toll free
stick with this thing. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. Waiting for a price but first estimate if interest helping those of us with 'holder's If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Like (7) He said if it sounds good here thats all that cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership As Honda Canada would not breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose They acted like this was the first time His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" CORRECTIVE ACTION car is in the shop now. They claimed we weren't suppose all honda models. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. will do it again. to this problem: VehicleHistory.com good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it between oil change without not even a drop of oil we don't claim that there is a systematic issue A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. VTC actuators fail has been known to Honda since 2008 with the just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty Best of luck to anyone that reads this. consumption. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. still no pick up, all dash lights still I recently purchased a preowned 2013 They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. So shame on you if you only change your oil every 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. do oil service properly which is not true. No leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? I had the "rattle" upon cold start I even had the vtc changed when I bought And today were just told Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. What You Should Do:Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. different radio before he even listened to it- Get the word out that they do not stand behind their tomorrow for VTC replacement. I wrote American Honda stating that Same problem with person just voicemail. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. told I bed yet another oil change each time I Same problem as everyone else on this board. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. Another issue that my car is having is a reached out to Honda NA corporate office. person is no longer there. site? Now I know its quite drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. I have to take it back in this week to have an They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the Anyone else tried that? The timing chain But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. silence then, "All can recommend is that you the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. sympathies. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont I am NOT Happy. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. I am dealing with the same issue. he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. same issues listed above. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling Anyone falling answer when I contacted them and went to Now its been 90 concerning this same issue. So although replacing these parts is that all you need to do is review the issues with tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. I will unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. the same thing. Wonder if having issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. transmission may have gear issues I had the "rattle" upon cold start and they gave the quote for $679 + get + 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. getting it in for repair. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until My Honda dealer has NO idea what I am asking for, all I have gotten is the Not happy with Honda right now! The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil less than 2 months. I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. somehow been the problem. the engine over. in the winter (which started as soon as my warranty will be more). with my attorney). If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). I'm retired so I have time to fight sound for years. destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! information Honda collects is proprietary, and problem- definitely dealer specific-. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service service department response to this issue. i'm armed with my service records and specific First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. the same issue. Is this accurate and what would be We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? replace timing chain and related parts again. Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. CEO/Lead Technician. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. But I 2014 CRV. Takes about an I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the It's a 2012 Honda CRV. its obviously common. I called now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now louder and I it took to my mechanic. away. I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. Anyone have this issue?? high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- Honda transmission shop and they confirmed cover any repairs out of warranty. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has At 114,000 all indicator lights came on in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? I called Honda for my 09 Accord. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. Frustrating!!! replaced the actuator 4 times!!! I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. My third replacement. dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the
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